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PostPosted: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:38:37    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

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Come on guys, group hug (clothing required).....


Awright DR.EC....that evil grin you're wearing does NOT = clothes, and I DO NOT want to know what it is you're holding behind your back!! Yikes

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PostPosted: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:09:20    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

SpydeR wrote:

2.) What the hell is this?


After looking at that thing for hours (ok, really like 10 minutes), I have a couple of ideas.

1. A way to hold down the expansion cards with out screws.

2. A place to mount one of those USB plates, or maybe one of those single slot system cooler fans.


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PostPosted: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:43:31    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Oh, I know what that is, and I missed the Q earlier...

I don't know why, but in order to make the case slightly shorter, the expansion cards are secured from the outside. You pop your agp/pci cards in as usual, but to fasten the screw, you need to remove that plastic cap and do it from the outside of the case. I reviewed a Chenming case like that...

http://www.bigbruin.com/html/chenming301ke_2.htm
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PostPosted: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 01:29:13    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Oh my god I feel stupid. I had this thread bookmarked and I've been going to it for the past 3 days, and I was like "WTF? why aren't these guys helping me anymore D:" Then I realize that it's 3 (totally derailed)pages! Yikes Turns out it was the end of the 1st page and I was just too blind to see there were more pages. Bang Head

Anyways, thanks for the help everyone, I would have never figured out that case thing. I still need help though.

Questions

1.) Is the PSU(300W) enough for OCing to about 2.2Ghz?

2.) I need a good fan for my heatsink, any recommendations?

3.) Dude said, "Get one more 80mm for the HDD bay, but not the lower intake. " What for the lower intake then?
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PostPosted: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:11:15    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

SpydeR wrote:

Questions

1.) Is the PSU(300W) enough for OCing to about 2.2Ghz?

2.) I need a good fan for my heatsink, any recommendations?

3.) Dude said, "Get one more 80mm for the HDD bay, but not the lower intake. " What for the lower intake then?


1) Probably not. A 350W or 400W will most likely be required.

2) Do you want to hear?? It all depends on how much noise you can stand as to which fan to get.
- If you only care about cooling, and not hearing try: [url= http://www.svc.com/8032-delta-80cfm.html]80mm Delta[/url] *Warning I am not responsible for any hearing losses...
- Other than that, look HERE for something that would fit your needs

3) Ignore him... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:36:13    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

I sugest a Nforce2 board like the previous post suggested. They are great inexspensive boards that have great onboard stuff and run well. Just my 2 cents. Then I would get a good XP processor and leave it alone. No overclocking. Just because what happens if your parents leave it on and it has a heat issue? YOU may know what to do but I'm guessing they won't since they asked you to upgrade it for you. Also you'll save money you could put into ram or a case instead of a bigger powersupply and fan and heat sink. Just my 2 censt and MHO thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:36:47    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

OH by the way what are you getting rid of on that old board and would you like to sell any of it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:03:18    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

For a 80mm fan, I like these...

Smart Fan II

Fast, if you want, but comes with a speed controller that can be manually or thermally adjusted.
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PostPosted: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:56:57    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Dr. EvilCheeze wrote:

1) Probably not. A 350W or 400W will most likely be required.

2) Do you want to hear?? It all depends on how much noise you can stand as to which fan to get.
- If you only care about cooling, and not hearing try: [url= http://www.svc.com/8032-delta-80cfm.html]80mm Delta[/url] *Warning I am not responsible for any hearing losses...
- Other than that, look HERE for something that would fit your needs

3) Ignore him... Laughing


1.) Hrmm, well I looked around and I came up with a couple of options within my budget.

We either have the Good PSU with the Ugly Cheap Case
Cost: $96

or

This Antec 350PSU case, which I think is spiffy.
Cost: $69

I would really like the Antec one, but do you think the 350PSU is enough for a decent OC? (I'm willing to down it to 2Ghz)

2.) If I go with this new case, it looks like I'd have to get a 120mm fan for the front, along with a fan for the heatsink.

For the 80mm hfs, I have some choices apparently:

Dr. Evil Cheese's 80x38mm Delta
Specifications
Size: 80 x 80 x 38 (mm)
Bearing: Dual Ball Bearing System
Voltage: 12V
Speed: 5700 rpm
Air Flow: 80 CFM
Noise Level: 52.5 dBA

or

Big Bruin's Smart Fan II
Specifications:
Compatibility: Case
Dimensions: 80 x 80 x 25 mm
Nominal Speed(RPM): 1300~ 4800
Max Air Flow:(CFM): 20.55~ 75.70
Max Pressure: 1.45~ 8.43 mm H2O
Rated Voltage: 12V DC
Noise(dBA): 17~ 48
Special Features: Temp.control fan speed.

I would go with Dr. Evil's but that's loud as hell, I don't even think my music could play over that, and the case is right out in the open. So Big Bruin's is the winner for my hsf, the adjustable speed sounds like a nice feature(if I could figure it out)

Now I just need a good 120mm fan for the front... recommendations anyone?

3.) k Rolling Eyes


michael_holmes wrote:
I sugest a Nforce2 board like the previous post suggested. They are great inexspensive boards that have great onboard stuff and run well. Just my 2 cents. Then I would get a good XP processor and leave it alone. No overclocking. Just because what happens if your parents leave it on and it has a heat issue? YOU may know what to do but I'm guessing they won't since they asked you to upgrade it for you. Also you'll save money you could put into ram or a case instead of a bigger powersupply and fan and heat sink. Just my 2 censt and MHO thanks.


Possibly, I'm still trying to figure out my options. I would do many stability/temperature checks before I set the OC for sure.

michael_holmes wrote:
OH by the way what are you getting rid of on that old board and would you like to sell any of it.


I'm getting rid of mother board along with the beastly 866Mhz, the SDRAM(512), a 250W PSU(I think), and an ugly as hell Compaq Presario case. So if you want any of these, be my guest and speak up. I also have an old 15" aspire monitor, more unrecognizable RAM chips and motherboards from 1996. 4 PCI(I think) 56k/28k(something like that) modem cards. Oh! and a floppy + 4 GB HDD(bundle deal)! EVERYTHING MUST GO!

Questions(summed up)

1.) I would really like the Antec one, but do you think the 350PSU is enough for a decent OC?

2.) If so, I just need a good 120mm fan for the front... recommendations anyone? I'm looking at this Antec One
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PostPosted: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:30:36    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Ummm give me a price for everything shipped to 49013. I'm thinking of building my little sis a crappy puter to solve a few fights.
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