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thePMG
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PostPosted: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:41:59    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

All I'm saying Dud3, is why throw an extra variable into the mix, when you can run the equipment as it was ment to be run, in spec.
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PostPosted: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:42:25    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

It is in spec.......
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PostPosted: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:54:47    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Dud3! wrote:
If you have to get RAM, get one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=20-145-503&DEPA=0
(just kidding)


Hahahhahaha, I wish.

After much consult, and some extra money out of me pockets, here's what I got so far:

MB: Albatron "KX18D Pro" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU
Cost: $60

CPU: AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2500+, 266 FSB, 512K Cache
Cost: $88

Case w/ Power Supply: ANTEC Solution Series Mid Tower Case with 300W Power Supply
Cost: $56

RAM: Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200
Cost: $89


TOTAL SYSTEM COST SO FAR: $293


Questions:

1.) Overclocking work on this mobo?

2.) Should I still go with the cooling?

3.) Why are you so awesome? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:57:34    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Yes, the mobo will OC.

Yes, you really need to get a decent heatsink and fan, along with Shin Etsu X-23 or Artic Silver 5.

I didn't know I was.

If you need the Shin Etsu (best there is), I can give you the guy to contact for a tube, and I can tell you the best way to apply it (I should write a quick guide one day, it's really simple).

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PostPosted: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 13:27:38    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

MB: Albatron "KX18D Pro" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU
Cost: $60

CPU: AMD 45 Watt Mobile Athlon XP 2500+, 266 FSB, 512K Cache
Cost: $88

Case w/ Power Supply: ANTEC Solution Series Mid Tower Case with 300W Power Supply
Cost: $56

RAM: Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200
Cost: $89

Heatsink: Thermalright CPU Cooler for AMD: Athlon XP Palamino, Thoroughbred, and Barton 2500+ and up (Heat Sink Only), Model "ALX800"
Cost: $20

Fans: Speeze 80mm DC Case fan
Cost: $4 (2 of them, $2 each.)


TOTAL SYSTEM COST SO FAR: $317


Questions:

1.) Do I have the right size fans(80mm) for this case?

2.) What the hell is this?


3.) I need a good fan for my heatsink, any recommendations?


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PostPosted: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:59:46    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Dud3! wrote:
With good hardware you can OC and have it be as stable or MORE stable than a stock system.



AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:20:01    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

LMAO please explain how O/C'ing can make it more stable, I would go with stable as but more stable?
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PostPosted: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:32:01    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Yes, 80mm. Get one more 80mm for the HDD bay, but not the lower intake.

That thing is to cover the screws for the add-in cards since they are on the outside to save interior space, it also holds the bag of screws/stand offs when it's shipped.

For the OC stability thing, it's true, an OCed system can be more stable than a stock, run of the mill system. Here's all I meant:

Take a Dell or HP or any other and check it out. The temps on most are going to be higher at idle than an OCed system that I would build would be under a full load. Spork has a Dell at work that's PSU runs at around 60c. My processor in my main comp hits 45C TOPS under a full load in warm weather and it's OCed over 900MHz.

My point was that if you build a quality system meant for OCing, you will not have issues with cheesy hardware, poor cooling, etc that would cause instability.

Now if you built two identical systems and didn't OC one, sure, it'd be more stable than the other, but only at extreme ambient temps that they normally wouldn't see.

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PostPosted: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:36:39    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

OK Dud3 I'll agree a quality built rig O/C'ed may be more stable than a piece of junk stock speed one, but then again that is comparing apples and oranges
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PostPosted: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:06:53    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Well yeah, I just passingly mentioned that fact, didn't mean for it to turn into a book. Razz
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