how shady are new car dealers by you ?

renovation

this just happen today . ( OK we all have one in the family -not the brightest light bulb )
my brother in-law stops in to the dodge dealer by his home on his way home from work to look at new trucks . the salesman get a hold of him and about sold / lease him a new 2006 dodge ram 150 4x4 4 door , 5 speed auto ,v8 ,am/FM CD , 6 ft bed .
has a sticker price of 30 plus thousand . anyway he tell the salesman he has his car for a trade a 5 year old ford windstar fwd.
the salesman works it all out . he to turn in his windstar.
my brother in-law calls his insurances company finds that his payments will go from $60 a month to $110 a month .thats fine and dandy !
the salesman tells him with his ford windstar as trade and $3500 down he can lease the new dodge ram 150 for 27 months at payments of $278
we'll then my brother in-law calls me and decides to change the deal a bit .he offers them his ford escort .(dealers not seen this piece of junk )
then the dealer tell my brother in law never mind we don't need a trade in !
my brother in law calls me back again .
and saids he be by to take for a ride and to the dealer
.i say fine i want to stop him he cant afford a new car he trying to sell his home because he can't make the payments .right now he is bringing home like 1-2 hundred more then his bills less food
so how the hell would he make those car payments .

anyway all said and done i talk him out of buying the truck .
then he tells me the salesman and the sales manager .had made him a special deal were they got him a employee discount and he was to give them $500 cash on top of the down payment to seal this deal !
and what other specials they set up for him was a free oil change every 3 months or 3000 mile and inspection .for the nice price of only $8 a month rolled into the payment .
and he still had to pay for plates and title !
I'm not sure what else was done in this deal but it all seem rotten to me .

i forgot IT WAS THE LAST DAY TO GET THIS GREAT DEAL !!!!!!!
I'm just glad i got him out of sign the paper work

knight0334 · Posted: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:32:47 Post Subject:

theres a simple rule to cars.. you dont need one that costs more then what you take home in 3 months.

Why spend $30K or make payments for 5 years on something that'll do the same thing as a $2000 beater with an occasional repair? ..and thats get you from point A to point B.

evilburl · Posted: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:35:43 Post Subject:

Good point Knight, but it is nice to have a car that you do not have to check everything over every time you go somewhere. I have a 2004 Saturn VUE that is not that expensive to buy. I got mine for $19000 Canadian (so that's probably $10000 American Razz

)Its an economical 4banger that gets around 34-36MPG. The peace of mind knowing that the better half with the kids should have no problems on their commute. (I get the older SL2)

renovation · Posted: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:57:27 Post Subject:

HackaX0rus · Posted: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:31:58 Post Subject:

i roll with my 87 crown vic wagon...its my parents car i am savin for a nissan 240 sx...crown vic is a peice of work i will have pics laterz...

knight0334 · Posted: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:05:26 Post Subject:

my 1990 Buick Lesabre has only failed to start 1 time. ..and that was the night I got it. a $30 sensor. I bought it in April of 2004 with 82K miles on it, it now has 118K and 15,000 miles from the last oil change.

I've put maybe $500 in the car. tires, new exhaust, rear brakes. only paid $1600 for the car.

$2100-2300 for a car.. thats less then a year's worth of car payments on a cheapo.

BeerCheeze · Posted: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:00:27 Post Subject:

Personally I think leasing if for fools. All you are doing is paying the deprecation of the vehicle and getting nothing more than a taxi ride for your money. Unless you personally LIKE to make payments all your life.

I prefer to buy the thing, sure the payments are a little more but then you pay it off and can have no car payments for several years. We're on a 10 yr rotation here. Every 10 yrs one of us will get a new car.

Hellfire · Rated XXX Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 3473

Reno, that's pretty common in all areas. Car Dealers have a good amount they can use to "dicker" with. Savings, cash rebates, etc. Usually they don't tell people them. Most dealerships around where I live offer totally free oil/check-ups for 3 - 5 years now with new car leases/purchase.

They won't tell you these things, as when they do tell you, they want you to feel like they've done you a favor, to help entice you to buy from them. Have to remember, all the dealerships I know of, the salesmen are on a comission based salary. Their sales are their livelyhoods...no sales = small paycheck.

Hopefully he realized that with leases, you have a VERY small number of miles you can put on the vehicle a year, then it's a VERY large penalty for each additional mileage. A friend ended up paying like 10K when she turned in her Lexus lease because of that...have to be careful with the leases.

I agree, you don't need to have a car that's worth that much to get around. On the other hand, you do need to have a car that's reliable. Think the car I just bought is the most expensive car I've ever bought and it was only at $20K

renovation · Posted: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:07:33 Post Subject:

edvallie · Posted: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:04:20 Post Subject:

I pick up all the ladies in my 96' Sable.