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jedihobbit
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 Posted: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:05:43 Post Subject: |
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After a disastrous summer of getting no where on anything, I’m back to try and get the ‘puter build juices flowing. Besides working on a “clandestine” build the wife doesn’t know about, thought I’d start thinking about the external water loop part of DCv2.
As it now stands I plan to have the computer part sit on my desk and have the remote radiator sitting on top of the desk hutch. This will require me to use most if not all of the 3 meter dual tube provided with the W/C radiator kit. Also this would involve having the radiator / fan assembly at a nominal 30” “above” the computer. There are several reasons for this but the primary one is if I had it sitting on the desk it would end up “under” the hutch and there would not be much in the realm of air movement. The following pictures hopefully can give you a “feel” for the placement. The box shown is YsSMN.
  
So will “fighting gravity” be an issue? For those of you that are unfamiliar with the aquaduct 240 Pro Mk II it uses an Eheim 1001 pump. This is a 12V, 11W pump pushing 150 – 600 L/h (39 – 158 gph). Also here are two nice reviews of its “big brother” the 360XT. Besides having a larger rad and one more fan it has some nice useful “bling”.
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/Aquacomputer_Aquaduct_360XT/index.shtml
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=554&type=expert&pid=2
So give me your input and we’ll see what happens!
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While trying to muddle my way through getting Kermit to be a dual boot system (XP & Ubunto) was back at looking over the WC system. One of the things I was thinking about is how to make this system as “modular” as possible. While the Aquaduct 240 PRO Mark II has the cutoff valves at the unit, was thinking maybe something down at the case might be useful. What I did was cut a couple of short pieces of the plug and play tubing and threw in two more cut off valves. Now the question for those that know…..am I adding more restriction to the system or does it seem like a plausible idea. Here is what it currently looks like……
 
Also as I get closer to testing the system, just curious….how many test the loop(s) “in the box” and how many test “out of the box”?
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| Posted: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:00:25 Post Subject: |
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It will probably add some restricition to the lines, but the question is... Will it matter? Pumps are generally oversized for water cooling, so losing a bit might not matter.
One way around it is to adapt up a tubing size or two around the valves so the cross sectional area inside the valve is equivalent to the tubing.
But I would say it isn't worth it.
I like that black desk, too... I need one like that!  |
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| Posted: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:04:35 Post Subject: |
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| Jason wrote: | | ........I like that black desk, too... I need one like that! |
My office originally was of the "surplus old style banking furniture" which I liked. However it didn't set too well with the boss so out it went with promise of new replacements. As timing would have it Staples was closing out what you see. If I get the chance I take pics of the rest as there are a couple of lateral files and real nice "work table" that I'm doing my building on that has foldout leaves to make for a large work surface.
Now if I could only get her to think the same was about 'puter upgrades! 
The valves "flow through" is very close to the 8mm plug and play tubing so think you're right about the negligible impact. Just nice to hear that I'm supposedly on the right track!
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| Posted: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:45:51 Post Subject: |
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Okay getting off the duff and doing some leak testing this weekend.
Started out with a wee bit of a static test and let it sit for an hour or so. First shot shows getting ready. Excuse some of the shots as I apparently either had “fuzzy eyes” or “nervous twitch” when I took some of the shots!
First off started getting ready by placing the 240 Pro on a short latter to simulate the desk layout.
I ended up having to put the 240 on the bench to do the initial filling. At this time would like to point out my only “complaint” so far with the system. They built shut off valves into the bottom of the unit, which is neat and useful, however: The valve levers are too tall to leave in place! I would have liked to been able to easily shut off flow at the rad unit considering my setup. After opening the valves at the 240 I ended up having to place the mobo assembly on the floor to help get the first major air bubbles out. Then I placed it back on the table……..good thing as I have my first leak!! Light carpet and blue coolant would not mix. The first two pics show my first and so far only leak. Don’t know if it is hose or coupling. May have to shorten the hose a bit to see if it will stop or change out the coupling if that doesn’t do the trick. The third pic shows the system loop with bubbles as I let it “static” test and then hooked up the PSU.
   
Like I said please excuse the picture quality!!!
After I let is sit “static” for a while I fired up the PSU to pump the coolant through the loop and top off the res. When running the res level is about a half inch low with the fluid running across the top as it is supposed to. Not sure but believe that should work as this will be where any air bubbles can “pop”. Here we have the whole scene
However I did notice a couple of bubbles in the GPU block (look at the top of the inlet and outlet)…….
One would hope that that will eventually “go away” as the system runs. It appears the CPU block is okay……
I’m now going to let it sit overnight to see what will happen. Open to suggestions on the one leak I have. Having shut off the valves “top & bottom” it stopped leaking but I’m sure in the running mode it will. Do wished I had thought ahead and ordered some of A C’s plugs for the lines as that would make it a lot less messy when I try to repair the issue and then set it up on the desk. If I don’t see any “other” leaks in the morning I’ll start hooking everything together in the box for the “full” run test.
Now on over to BluHaz reDux v2.0 to do some “moving around” in prep for its 9600GSO that is supposed to be coming!
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| Posted: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:25:34 Post Subject: |
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Got everything in the case and fired it up.........NO VIDEO!!   
The 8800GT is fully seated and has the power from the PSU, even tried a different monitor. Both outputs even! The thing was working when I took off the stock cooler and added the WC stuff.
What am I missing???????
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| Posted: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:26:16 Post Subject: |
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Kept telling myself that it has to be something simple, yes very simple and easy to fix. I was right……..simple minded dumb ars of an operator! :idea: Some of you may remember that I borked the bios chip in Kermit the Folder and then fried the one I took from DC. Got the two chips in and bingo Kermit was up and running. Guess what I forgot to put into DreamCatcher!  
Now on to other stuff and this looks like I will have to read the manual on the Aquaduct 240 Pro as the fans are not running so the temps are going up. One thing or another but at least I still have my GPU!!!!!
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| Posted: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:47:49 Post Subject: |
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In my usual panic mode in trying to get things done I wanted to make sure I had indeed borked the bios chip. Seems to be an easy thing to do with these nViews. I had done the same thing earlier this year and replaced the chip. However in the rush when I stole DC's I managed to stick it in backwards. So had to order two replacements.
So, Yes 
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| Posted: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:30:28 Post Subject: |
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It seems I'm not out of the woods yet as I get the BSOD unless I load in safe mode and now have to figure out what that is all about!
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