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PostPosted: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:02:11    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

nolonger wrote:
I just saw a Pentium Dual Core E5300 and I was stunned by its performance. The guys at Techgage managed to overclock it to 3,75Ghz with 1.4vcore (link). I'd think this would outperform a Core 2 Duo E8400, even when overclocked. What do you guys think? The E5300 is going for $80 at the store. I wouldn't mind spending an extra $30-40 on an after market cooler.

I'm trying to get the best performance out of a cheap build.

WOW!!! That's an amazing overclock!!! Yikes

I haven't read the whole article (at least not yet... Wink ), but maybe the one he got had a good stepping and/or low VID??? Did he managed to get this overclock with air cooling only??? What ere is temps?

I'd still go with a E8400 which overclocks quite good as well, just to be on the safe side. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:48:07    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

He did not mention the cooling method, but I assume it was air. Temps were at 68 celsius under load for the higher overclock.
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PostPosted: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:48:36    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

nolonger wrote:
I just saw a Pentium Dual Core E5300 and I was stunned by its performance. The guys at Techgage managed to overclock it to 3,75Ghz with 1.4vcore (link). I'd think this would outperform a Core 2 Duo E8400, even when overclocked. What do you guys think? The E5300 is going for $80 at the store. I wouldn't mind spending an extra $30-40 on an after market cooler.

I'm trying to get the best performance out of a cheap build.


Overclocking really varies from chip to chip and will also be impacted by your motherboard and RAM so I wouldn't buy that CPU and assume you will be able to get a 1Ghz+ OC out of it. The E5200 also has a much lower cache which will also impact performace.

If you are primarily gaming I would skip the aftermarket CPU heatsink (as long as you have a decent case) and put it in your graphics card. I am running a E8500 with a nice heatsink. I overclocked it to 3.8Ghz for a while but there wasn't any noticable difference in games so I am running at stock speads right now. In gereal, if you have a decent CPU your gaming experience will be limited by your graphics card, not your CPU. Since it souds like you are on a budget I would look at the ATI HD 4770. This card can play CoD and similar games at your resolution with some AA and maxed out settings and still get ~60fps. A 4870 is a very strong card but will cost you a decent bit more ($100 US for a 4770 vs. $185 US for a 4870). At your resolution a 4770 should give you enough to keep you and your wallet happy.
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PostPosted: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:59:35    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

The HD4770 is going for $129.00 at the store. I'm not sure if saving $30 instead of getting a HD4850 is worth it. I'm trying to get the most performance out of my money. It doesn't really annoy me if I have to wait a month to get another component as long as it'll affect my performance enough.

For gaming I would think the E5300 is enough, since games are mostly GPU. If the processor does bottleneck a bit, I can always overclock it. With a HD4870 there is no doubt I'll get top performance, but I'm not so sure about a HD4850.
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PostPosted: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:39:11    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

in most of the benchmarks I have seen the 4770 performs almost the exact same as a 4850.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4770-review/1

The 4770 also overclocks very well

http://www.guru3d.com/article/overclocking-the-radeon-hd-4770/

I have a 4870 and I am very happy with it. It plays FC2 and Crysis without any problems on a 19" widescreen monitor. I bought the cheapest one I could find and put an aftermarket cooler on it to bring the temps down and to make it quiet (very noisy stock fan). Between the card and the cooler I spent ~ $200 ($170 for the card + $25 for a used after market cooler).
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PostPosted: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:19:00    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

I think I just fell in love for the HD4770. It is my first option now, for sure!
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PostPosted: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:45:08    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

I game at 3.75Ghz using my E5200. VID at 1.3625v, aircooled. The 45nm E5000 is really the equivalent of the 40nm HD4700 in the gaming world. Best bang-for-the-buck CPU and GPU combo Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 07 May 2009 02:37:05    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

I'd go with 4770 and then start saving money to purchase another one in the future, in order to run 2 4770s in CrossFire and get a performance equal to GTX285. Grin
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