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mrweasel
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thePMG
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thePMG
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| Posted: Fri, 05 May 2006 00:06:29 Post Subject: |
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| Kilamon wrote: |
All OSes have viruses, even linux. It's just a matter of time for the virus writers to create one for any "new" OS. Windows has prolific exploits and viruses only because it is itself prolific. If Linux were as widely used, you'd see more linux viruses. |
I've heard this many times, but I still don't agree with it. I think that windows has most of it's problems due to design, i.e. a single user OS being shoehorned into a multiuser role. That and poor security out of the box. Who the hell makes all users default to root (er, administrator) on creation? Really, it's just a bad design.
But yea, any OS is vulnerable, because with some people, you can't fix stupidity.
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mrweasel
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either way, you still have to pop my firewall to get to my machine
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| Posted: Fri, 05 May 2006 18:03:27 Post Subject: |
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| Dr. EvilCheeze wrote: | | *nix also has the problem that too many applications have to be run as ROOT, not a pseudo-root, but as root. . |
Chroot, jail, usermode linux, the above is not really a problem.
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BeerCheeze
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| Posted: Fri, 05 May 2006 23:11:00 Post Subject: |
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| thePMG wrote: | | Dr. EvilCheeze wrote: | | *nix also has the problem that too many applications have to be run as ROOT, not a pseudo-root, but as root. . |
Chroot, jail, usermode linux, the above is not really a problem. |
Well then you tell our Senior Unix Admin's that. Cause I'm sure their over 15 yrs experience, and 80K+ salaries, and the fact they run the systems that let you make a 9-1-1 call makes them clueless in this stuff. (Cause I've beat them up about it). Of course we don't run any of our critical system on Linux, they are running Sun's.) |
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thePMG
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| Posted: Sat, 06 May 2006 00:32:58 Post Subject: |
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http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/zones/
(only in 10, btw, but the ability is there. I understand that older systems and infrastructure are reluctant to upgrade from what works. I'm sure your admins work with what they are given.)
Our V120 at work is sitting @ 180 days uptime. good stuff...
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BeerCheeze
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| Posted: Sat, 06 May 2006 11:06:29 Post Subject: |
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Actually I know we have some new 10 boxes, and I think they are doing these Zone things. However I am pretty sure they just "virtual" OS'es running. While that offers more segmentation in the OS (which is good, and does add more security) I still believe they have to run many app's as root.
I still think I'm going to read up more on this (thanks for the link) to see what all the security ramifications and benefits are.  If it's good enough I might try to start pushing all the boxes on this  |
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