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				 Posted: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:02:11    Post Subject:  | 
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				 	  | nolonger wrote: | 	 		  I just saw a Pentium Dual Core E5300 and I was stunned by its performance. The guys at Techgage managed to overclock it to 3,75Ghz with 1.4vcore (link). I'd think this would outperform a Core 2 Duo E8400, even when overclocked. What do you guys think? The E5300 is going for $80 at the store. I wouldn't mind spending an extra $30-40 on an after market cooler.
 
 
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WOW!!! That's an amazing overclock!!!    
 
 
I haven't read the whole article (at least not yet...   ), but maybe the one he got had a good stepping and/or low VID??? Did he managed to get this overclock with air cooling only??? What ere is temps?
 
 
I'd still go with a E8400 which overclocks quite good as well, just to be on the safe side.    _________________ Intel Quad-Core Q6600 G0 @3.4GHz (8x425)
 
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		nolonger Rated R
 
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		x.clay Rated NC-17
  
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				 Posted: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:48:36    Post Subject:  | 
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				 	  | nolonger wrote: | 	 		  I just saw a Pentium Dual Core E5300 and I was stunned by its performance. The guys at Techgage managed to overclock it to 3,75Ghz with 1.4vcore (link). I'd think this would outperform a Core 2 Duo E8400, even when overclocked. What do you guys think? The E5300 is going for $80 at the store. I wouldn't mind spending an extra $30-40 on an after market cooler.
 
 
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Overclocking really varies from chip to chip and will also be impacted by your motherboard and RAM so I wouldn't buy that CPU and assume you will be able to get a 1Ghz+ OC out of it.  The E5200 also has a much lower cache which will also impact performace.  
 
 
If you are primarily gaming I would skip the aftermarket CPU heatsink (as long as you have a decent case) and put it in your graphics card.  I am running a E8500 with a nice heatsink.  I overclocked it to 3.8Ghz for a while but there wasn't any noticable difference in games so I am running at stock speads right now.  In gereal, if you have a decent CPU your gaming experience will be limited by your graphics card, not your CPU.  Since it souds like you are on a budget I would look at the ATI HD 4770.  This card can play CoD and similar games at your resolution with some AA and maxed out settings and still get ~60fps.  A 4870 is a very strong card but will cost you a decent bit more ($100 US for a 4770 vs. $185 US for a 4870).  At your resolution a 4770 should give you enough to keep you and your wallet happy. | 
			 
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		nolonger Rated R
 
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				 Posted: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:39:11    Post Subject:  | 
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				in most of the benchmarks I have seen the 4770 performs almost the exact same as a 4850.  
 
 
http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4770-review/1
 
 
The 4770 also overclocks very well 
 
 
http://www.guru3d.com/article/overclocking-the-radeon-hd-4770/
 
 
I have a 4870 and I am very happy with it.  It plays FC2 and Crysis without any problems on a 19" widescreen monitor.  I bought the cheapest one I could find and put an aftermarket cooler on it to bring the temps down and to make it quiet (very noisy stock fan).  Between the card and the cooler I spent ~ $200 ($170 for the card + $25 for a used after market cooler).  | 
			 
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		anonemus Rated XXX
  
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				 Posted: Wed, 06 May 2009 21:45:08    Post Subject:  | 
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				I game at 3.75Ghz using my E5200. VID at 1.3625v, aircooled. The 45nm E5000 is really the equivalent of the 40nm HD4700 in the gaming world. Best bang-for-the-buck CPU and GPU combo    | 
			 
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				 Posted: Thu, 07 May 2009 02:37:05    Post Subject:  | 
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				I'd go with 4770 and then start saving money to purchase another one in the future, in order to run 2 4770s in CrossFire and get a performance equal to GTX285.    _________________ Intel Quad-Core Q6600 G0 @3.4GHz (8x425)
 
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