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PostPosted: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:49:23    Post Subject: ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3 Slim Audio Card Reply with quote View Single Post

Over the course of this review, my opinion of the Xonar HDAV1.3 Slim has gradually improved alongside the software and drivers. Initially I wasn't very impressed, but could see the potential. With each updated version of the drivers and player I've become just a little more comfortable with the card. I'm happy to say that today I'm extremely satisfied with its performance.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 05:37:14    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Okay, I'm not very audio savvy. But I have some odd questions. I see this has HDMI in and out. So I run hdmi from a device through the card, then out to my reciever. Okay nifty. Right now I have a Nivida 9800 GX2 that has HDMI out, and it plugs into the onboard sound of my mobo. So it connects to my reciever, and I get audio/visual awesome out of one cable. If I purchased this card, I could disconnect the cable from my video card and my motherboard, route it through the Asus Xonar and get better audio than the setup I have now? Would it even be noticable?
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PostPosted: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:11:27    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Shadowsilence wrote:
Okay, I'm not very audio savvy. But I have some odd questions. I see this has HDMI in and out. So I run hdmi from a device through the card, then out to my reciever. Okay nifty. Right now I have a Nivida 9800 GX2 that has HDMI out, and it plugs into the onboard sound of my mobo. So it connects to my reciever, and I get audio/visual awesome out of one cable. If I purchased this card, I could disconnect the cable from my video card and my motherboard, route it through the Asus Xonar and get better audio than the setup I have now? Would it even be noticable?


Shadowsilence, you are correct, however, you wouldn't get better sound unless you were watching a blu-ray movie and had a receiver that could decode the newer high definition audio tracks. The other option is to decode these tracks on the computer and send them to the receiver via multi-channel pcm, which would give you similar sound, but requires several audio cable connections from the computer to the receiver and a blu-ray software player capable of decoding the hd audio tracks.

The other thing worth mentioning is that the difference in audio quality between Dobly Surround / DTS when compared to their high definition counterparts Dolby HD / DTS Master Audio can very greatly depending on the movie/soundtrack. I found that some movies and soundtracks contained obvious improvements while others appeared to offer little to no improvement.

I'm pretty happy with the card on the whole though, because when you do get a blu-ray disc with a great HD audio track, it rocks.

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PostPosted: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:22:07    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

I might have to check it out. I have an Onkyo TX-SR805 so that should be able to decode the audio tracks. I have a blu-ray rom, so I guess the only thing I'd need is the software, and the xonar of course. Thanks for the response and the great review.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:01:49    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Best card/s + sware for S/PDIF or HDMI-Audio input & decode of DD/DTS (inc. HD) formats?

I'm just curious as to what people believe to be the best card nowadays for digital-in of the various surround formats created by DD & DTS.
[they're responsible for 99% of SS encoded content right?]

Initially it'd only be for taking encoded content from my Xbox360 & Wi...
But soon it'd also be for a PS3 which for BD content I believe uses newer DD & DTS formats, namely: TrueHD, & HD MA.

Ideally it'd be happy to take any DTS/DD content thrown at it, & pass it to the appropriate (licensed) software for decoding.
[or hardware if there's a card that can do this]

Mostly I'd like to decode and run it through a stereo surround simulation scheme like; DH, CMSS, or DTS-SS.
But occasionally I'll decode/convert & do multi-channel analogue-out via my Essence ST + H6 (7.1 daughter-board).

I was investigating X-Fi cards but they seem to have regressed in this area recently, I hope it's not a conscious trend influenced by big content!
I'm yet to check out Auzentech and Xonar cards for this use....

Then I got to thinking, maybe HDMI-audio capable devices are better suited for this sort of thing than S/PDIF?
Perhaps there's sound-cards that can take HDMI-in, or if not graphics cards?

I know that currently "bit-stream in" for graphics cards acts only as a pass-through to AVR's etc.
The big question mark is if there's dvrs/software that can recognise this incoming bit-stream, & instead decompress it.
Then we have raw digital PCM ready for decoding...

I'm guessing this step is something deliberately kept in the realm of AVR's, but if there's a way, perhaps it's a better path than via S/PDIF?

Assuming a way is found...
Then it's a matter of redirecting the PCM stream to software or hardware (assuming there's cards) decoder/s.
And then (in my situation) have this decoded signal pass through the analogue output circuitry of an Essence ST + H6.

Utopia/profit! Grin
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PostPosted: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:05:09    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Prolly the best solutions I've come across so far are: HDAV1.3 or Hometheatre HD

Quote: A main feature of the HTHD 7.1 is offering HDMI 1.3a I/O to the end user which allows full resolution, high definition audio with no down sampling. A very interesting feature of the HTHD 7.1 is the use of an external receiver is NOT required to have support for these high definition standards.
While the use of an external receiver is an option, the card allows any speaker system connected to the card to output Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby True HD and DTS-HDMA in full resolution.


What's not certain to me yet is whether these cards can decode & do dac to DTS/DD content (HD or non-HD) coming via HDMI, instead of locally.

Even more ideal would be to use my existing Core i3-530 + motherboard w/HDMI-in...
But I'm not sure if Intel HD Graphics is able to receive A/V via HDMI, let alone decode w/approp. s'ware & redirect to 3rd party DAC.
I doubt it's able to, nor do I expect it'd be possible with sw updates & right mobo/adapters, but TBH I'm not 100% certain!

The main reasons I want something like this is to;
1) Send digi-Audio (HD or non-HD) to my PC to create virtual surround in stereo (CMSS, DH etc)...
2) Have a PAP* compliant solution so I can receive & play or locally play HD A/V, for the times I'm too lazy to rip/transcode.

It's a shame that I prolly won't be able to redirect decoded DD & DTS formats to my Essence ST + H6 for superior analogue output.
I suspect that'd break the PAP/xxx....
So for analogue-out of received or locally played HD DD & DTS, I'll be forced to use the same card.
Unless I've gone to the effort of ripping & transcoding beforehand...

*forgotten what the video equivalent is called


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PostPosted: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:34:13    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

anyone? thank-you.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:19:57    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

guess not....
thanks anyway I guess.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:43:29    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

I haven't been keeping up with sound cards for a while now. I'm still using the same one from a few years back.
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