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PostPosted: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:30:25    Post Subject: hypertranspot and ram Reply with quote View Single Post

noobish question again... i was in the local geek shop a few days ago running an errand for work and i was just curious to see how much some of their corsair stuff was...

we then started talking about my system and such and he told me that i shouldve bought the ram for my system in the twin packs to take advantage of the hypertransport... he explained why but wasnt sure if he was 100%

so what im wondering is did i waste money on buying my sticks serperatly??

i just ordered my second stick of corsair xms low latency so i have a gig now....

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PostPosted: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:32:37    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

also

would it be worth it to me to buy another gig in like a 2x512 thing??? i have some money comin in i wanna waste on dumb stuff lol.... i heard from somewhere that after a gig windows doesnt really do much w/ it??

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PostPosted: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:08:30    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

So... what is in your system right now? two sticks? If they are the same size, speed, etc you should be good.

Not sure about the hypertransport bit, but running ddr in dual channel mode will give you a performance boost! But, you need to have memory of the same speed, timins, size, etc so it works really well... Otherwise, both sticks of memory will be running at the specs of the weaker of the two!
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PostPosted: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:23:37    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

okay so i should be fine then... as far as i know i ordered the same thing lol
*checking reciepts* hehe

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PostPosted: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:57:25    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

I think the "Twin" packs are an Advertizing gimic. As BB sez...as long as the two sticks are spec'd the same, you should be fine.

I have two (not "twin") sticks of Corsair XMS PC3200 C2 DDR that were running in a P4E 2.8 system -dual channel- -hyperthreading- and the system ran fine (other than the heat issues).

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PostPosted: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:01:47    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

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hypertransport-


i want that on a p4 hehe...

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PostPosted: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:12:19    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

DOH! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 02:22:17    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

HyperTransport is a AMD thing, sorry InteliBoys. And yes... it will help things run faster if the ram is duel chan.

For those that don't know what HyperTransport is:

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HyperTransport technology is a high-speed, low latency, point-to-point link designed to increase the communication speed between integrated circuits in computers, servers, embedded systems, and networking and telecommunications equipment up to 48 times faster than some existing technologies.
HyperTransport technology helps reduce the number of buses in a system, which can reduce system bottlenecks and enable today's faster microprocessors to use system memory more efficiently in high-end multiprocessor systems.
HyperTransport technology is designed to:
Provide significantly more bandwidth than current technologies
Use low-latency responses and low pin counts
Maintain compatibility with legacy PC buses while being extensible to new SNA (Systems Network Architecture) buses.
Appear transparent to operating systems and offer little impact on peripheral drivers.
HyperTransport technology was invented at AMD with contributions from industry partners and is managed and licensed by the HyperTransport Technology Consortium, a Texas non-profit corporation. The full specification and more information about HyperTransport technology can be found at HyperTransport.org.


AMD may let Intel use it in the future after AMD finishs blowing their doors off with it Razz

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PostPosted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:50:31    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Actually, Hyper Transport is a bus between chipsets (NB and SB), chipset and CPU, or CPU to CPU. It does NOT connect a CPU or chipset to RAM.

http://hypertransport.org/applications/apps_PCs.cfm

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PostPosted: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:51:22    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Basicly that is true and not true(The way you put it, that is). With the way AMD puts the memory controler on their CPU uses hypertransport to it's fullest advantage. This is why a FX64 processor can still beat the top Intel system with DDR2 in memory bandwidth test. With the on coming of future 64 processor with onboard DDR2 controlers(Second quarter 2005) Intel is going to be hard pressed to top it.
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