Well I'm banned

michael_holmes · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:36:47 Post Subject: Well I'm banned

Froma IANAG. I guess martin didn't want to risk me contradicting the slander of my sister. Oh well. Oh red squirrel can you send me that last PM. I can't get to it now.

NewAwakenings · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:43:20 Post Subject:

I think we should start a "banned from IANAG club" I'll be president!!!! Grin

And I dunno what happened with your sister I did read about it, gotta love the reformatting to get your cookies cleared. I dont take sides on anything for anybody, all I will say is no matter how it happened or who did what, they both need to grow up, Noah doesn't need to see that, it is him that will suffer the most if this crap doesnt stop. Best of luck to all involved and my prayers are with Noah!!!

dadx2mj · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:46:54 Post Subject:

LOL I pretty much have banned myself from that place. I have not posted there since Martin took over.

michael_holmes · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:54:01 Post Subject:

Yeah I agree with you on some aspects NewAwakenings. I don't ask people to side. I don't care about that. I just want what's best for the baby. Then the brother part of me comes out and I want my mom and sisters protected. Oh well. I'm part of the club though.

NewAwakenings · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:55:53 Post Subject:

With the risk of sounding like they are my clients and they arent, they need intervention, mediation so to say. They can keep this vendeta with one another going because it is only going to hurt th one most precious person and that is that little boy. And my heart goes out to him. Wish they both lived in my county!!!

michael_holmes · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:01:43 Post Subject:

I think actually the best thing to happen is to avoid all contact. At the risk of sounding like I think I know to much.... My sister has a subordinant attitude she does as she is told by the male in her life. She should seek counseling for that. Martin is a controller he manipulates the people around him. Those two disorders should never be around each other it causes a cycle of abuse. There should be an outsider to transport noah to and from visitation and both sides of the argument should say nothing negative about the other side. Noah would be fine then. IMHO

NewAwakenings · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:05:31 Post Subject:

It can be arranged that way, or arrangements can be made for the exchange of teh child to take palce at the local police department. And the most important thign is that neither side (family included) never says anything and about either parent in front of Noah. After all Noah is half of each of them, and he will take that to heart as he grows older.

michael_holmes · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:07:05 Post Subject:

We learned that in my psych class and maybe in my sociology class too. The whole children grow up to model their parents especially same sex one. So if you try to make them look bad the child may take that as them being bad and it could cause issues.

NewAwakenings · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:11:42 Post Subject:

ahh I think your think of Freud ...LOL that was his way of thinking... doing the line of work I do now, and working with this as well as loads of other problems all I can say is the adults need to be adults, its not about them anymore, its about Noah, and they need to settle their issues and think about what is best for that little boy. Because weather anyone likes it or not, they are tied to each other, at one time or another they will be in the same place, Noah is going to grow up, there will be little league and sporting events, school activites, graduations, god forbid a medical ememrgency or accident, bithdays ect. they need to get issues resolved and learn to communicate effectively without fighting. The dotn ahve to be friends, but they both need to show respect to the other one, and have Noah's best interest in mind.

Dud3! · Posted: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:40:00 Post Subject:

*cough*The Den*cough*

I also "banned myself" after martin being an a$$ to me for no reason and all the other stuff. Really sad to see FOC and IANAG go. They still had a little chance left before martin, now they're history. If that place succeeds at something (I can't imagine what), it won't be FOC/IANAG, it will be Martin.com. FOC and IANAG are already dead.