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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:39:51    Post Subject: What is considered a good heat transfer value? Reply with quote View Single Post

I am by no means a high end user but recently at work we have been working with epoxy for a motor that requires heat transfer but also encapsulation of parts to protect from water intrusion. So now I am wondering if it would be possible to pot a mobo and submerge in a cooling fluid for those that really want to push the limit. If these epoxies can provide sufficient heat transfer you may get significantly more cooling since all components would be cooled. Has anyone tried this or thought about it? I am not even sure how expensive it would be to try on an old machine but figured I would throw the idea out there.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:48:19    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Yea, it's possible to do a submerged system. There's actually a company out there that's all that they do. Buy all kinds of hardware you want and can get it put into a liquid filled box. Can't think of the name of the company right now though.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:50:26    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

I've seen one system sunk in what I think was mineral oil.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:24:57    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Yup...

http://www.hardcorecomputer.com/ProductCategoryDetail_catDesktop_productReactor1.aspx
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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:26:29    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Jason wrote:
I've seen one system sunk in what I think was mineral oil.


It wasn't mineral oil, thats flammable and will eat paint from the mobo's. It was some sorta of dielectric coolant. I think it was called "Fluorinert".
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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:39:57    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

the Reactor PCs use a "mineral-oil-like substance" Razz

The original mods that I have seen for this actually used mineral oil. It never seemed like that best idea to dunk your PC in any kind of liquid but maybe that's just me Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:27:18    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Hmmm...at least I am not crazy for thinking about it. I know the epoxy we are using is very expensive but it does transmit heat well and does protect teh motor internals and sensors from water to the point we could flood the entire thing and it would be fine. So I figured the same could be done to a PC but I guess it would limit your ability to upgrade in teh future.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:47:18    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

With this system I don't think they do anything different to the components from what you can buy off the shelf. It's non-conductive oil or whatever it is, so they don't need to worry about that.

I've not fully read up on it, and only going by what I remember when it was first talked about last year LOL So I could be WAY off base Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:40:08    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

Definitely mineral oil... I knew I had seen it and Google confirms plenty of examples. Like:

http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

Doesn't seem to be particularly flammable, either...

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The National Fire Protection Association has assigned a flammability rating of 1 (slight fire hazard) to mineral oil mist.


http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/oilmist/recognition.html

My breakaway windpants are probably more flammable, especially with all that friction! Yikes

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PostPosted: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:48    Post Subject: Reply with quote View Single Post

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My breakaway windpants are probably more flammable, especially with all that friction!


you should toss those in the box with the Seagate Freeagent that you are giving away Smile
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